Hokianga Accord Hui Report
By Trish Rea
15 May 2006
A hui to provide for the input and participation of tangata
whenua having a non-commercial interest in fisheries, an interest
in the effects of fishing on the aquatic environment and having
particular regard to kaitiakitanga.
- 7 April 2006
te kaitiaki o te moana, nga ika me nga kaimoana"
the guardian of the sea, the fish and seafood
of The Bay Chronicle)
This document represents
the record of the Hokianga Accord hui held at Whitiora marae, Te
Tii, Bay of Islands on the 6th and 7th of April 2006.
The Hokianga Accord is
the mid-north iwi Forum established by Ngapuhi, Ngati Whatua, Ngati
Wai in conjunction with the Ministry of Fisheries to meet its obligations
to tangata whenua and provide for the input and participation of
tangata whenua having a non-commercial interest in fisheries, an
interest in the effects of fishing on the aquatic environment and
having particular regard to kaitiakitanga.
The Accord is an iwi Forum
and includes the full participation of many other non-commercial
fishing interest representatives.
The discussions reported
from this hui cover a diverse range of subjects including eel (tuna)
management, concerns about Ministry of Fisheries' processes, the
Shared Fisheries Policy project, Fisheries Plans and marine protection
This report was commissioned
by the Hokianga Accord and was written by Trish Rea. The report
is taken from material recorded electronically throughout the hui.
Sonny Tau, Scott Macindoe and Bruce Galloway reviewed the report
prior to its publication.
Anticipation of a productive
hui was high amongst the sixty people waiting to be welcomed onto
the Whitiora Marae, in Te Tii, Bay of Islands on the morning of
April 6th. Maori community leaders from the mid-north had
come to share the two-day Hokianga Accord hui with recreational
fishing representatives from around the North Island.
Included in the waiting
group was a team of eight from the Ministry of Fisheries led by
Mark Edwards, MFish Manager of Fisheries Policy. Carl Ross, leader
of the Customary Relationship Unit (CRU), Te Tari o te Kahui Pou
Hononga, was accompanied by Graeme Morrell and George Riley, the
Pou Hononga for Te Tai Tokerau.
Tracey Kingi from the
Ministry's Nelson based Extension Services team was also at this
hui. This team had been specifically established to implement initiatives
from the Deed of Settlement programme and to assist tangata whenua
to have input and participation into fisheries management.
The Manager, Jodi Mantle,
and Stephanie Hill represented the Ministry's Inshore management
team. Completing the MFish team was Jonathan Peacey, the National
Manager of Fisheries Operations, who had joined the hui to discuss
Tainui's Tom Moana could
not be at the hui so he sent his apologies and a series questions
to be put to the Ministry officials during the question and answer
session planned for later in the hui (Appendix
One). Tom is co-chairman of the Waikato Forum, Nga Hapu O Te
Uru, and had been very involved in previous Hokianga Accord hui
and the Executive Forum for leaders of all the iwi Forums from around
Both Keith Ingram and
Bill Ross of the New Zealand Recreational Fishing Council sent apologies
and their endorsement of what the Hokianga Accord is trying to achieve.
These were read to the hui during the Whakawhanaungatanga session
(Appendix Two and Appendix
Leading the New Zealand
Big Game Fishing Council team was their President, Jeff Romeril.
Northland members at the hui included John Chibnall, Paul Batten,
Jerry Garrett, John Holdsworth and Brett Rathe.
Jeff also introduced the
recreational fishing representatives to the hui during the formal
welcoming session. This team included Paul Barnes, Scott Macindoe,
Trish Rea, Steve Sangster, Paul and Remi Smit of option4. Bill Bell
was attending as a representative of the Whangarei based Northland
Outboard Boating club. Lorraine Hill, the Russell based Ngapuhi
representative on the Recreational Fishing Ministerial Advisory
Committee was also present at the hui for both days. Kerikeri's
Mark Feldman, a long time advocate for sustainable fisheries management,
particularly of kahawai, was attending his first Hokianga Accord
Tepania Kingi was representing
Ngati Whatua's interest in the discussions during the course of
Two long-term Board members
of Ngati Wai attended the hui. Himiona Munroe and the fisheries
manager, Allan Moore, represented the Ngati Wai people, the Board
and their chairman Laly Haddon. Laly sent his apologies for not
being at Whitiora.
Also at the hui was Matu
Clendon of Ngati Kuta. His contribution and extensive knowledge
of the Bay of Islands marine environment was most welcome.
from Ngapuhi board members Judah Heihei, Paul Haddon, Joe Bristowe,
and Ruby Winikeri have assisted in the development of the Hokianga
Accord, from the beginning.
It did not take long for
Larry Baldock's wife Barbara to find her way into the kitchen and
become one of the ringa wera. Barbara felt honoured to be allowed
into the kitchen to help out. Meanwhile Larry did his best to keep
the Ministry officials honest by insisting they answered the questions
that were put to them.
Bruce Galloway and Vern
Tonks are members of the Guardians of Mimiwhangata's Fisheries and
Marine Environment Incorporated /Nga Kaitiaki o Nga Ika, Nga Kaimoana
Me Nga Ahuatanga Takiwa o Te Moana o Mimiwhangata. They gave a valuable
insight into the process they undertook to establish their group
and the progress they have made working with tangata whenua and
local communities on alternative marine protection to the marine
reserve proposed by the Department of Conservation in 2004, for
the coastal waters at Mimiwhangata on Northland's north-eastern
Also at this hui was a
group of students studying for their diploma in fisheries management,
with their tutor Paul Maxwell. The Whangarei based students have
just started their two-year course.
Last minute changes to
the very full agenda meant the important Whakawhanaungatanga (apologies,
messages) session was moved from the commencement of the hui to
the second day. This was a mistake that will not be repeated at
future Hokianga Accord hui.
The chairman of Te Runanga
A Iwi O Ngapuhi, Sonny Tau chaired the first day's proceedings.
Scott Macindoe of option4 chaired the second day of the hui.
Hui and Correspondence
At the last Hokianga Accord
hui, in November 2005, it was agreed that the Working Group or ‘"short
line-out" would meet as soon as possible to progress the Kaupapa
Whakahaere. In December the ‘"short line-out" met
with MFish officials in Auckland to develop the Memorandum of Understanding
(MOU). Reports from both of these hui are online at http://option4.co.nz/Fish_Forums/hokianga.htm.
The December hui was well prepared and designed to
arrive at an “agreement” on the MOU and Terms of Reference
between the Ministry and the Hokianga Accord. Unfortunately, little
progress was made on the MOU and Terms of Reference. The Hokianga
Accord offered the Ministry a draft alternative iwi relationship
model and requested their earliest feedback.
A very frustrating, complex,
expensive and inconclusive engagement had occurred with the Ministry
in the four months since December. In hindsight, it seemed the 'short
line-out' had been naïve in expecting cooperation, flexibility
and encouragement from the Ministry. In March the 'short line-out'
were dismayed to receive a letter from the MFish Deputy CEO, Stan
Crothers (Appendix Four) stating,
"The Hokianga Accord would not be the vehicle to provide
for the input and participation of iwi into fisheries processes.
This role would be carried out by way of a Regional Forum.
The Regional Forum would not include recreational fishers as parties
or signatories, however, recreational representatives could be
invited to observe and participate in discussions.”
“"In our view, renewed
efforts should be undertaken to ensure that the iwi in the Mid-North,
and the two mentioned hapu groups [Te Roroa and Te Uri O
Hau], are aware of the opportunity to participate in a Forum,
and that all those groups be involved in the development of the
MOU and Terms of Engagement for that Forum.
view of the difficulty that has been encountered by both parties
in some of the previous meetings with the Hokianga Accord, we
think it would be useful to formally set out how iwi and the Ministry
will work together at Forum meetings and in the interactions that
arise from those meetings.
Hokianga Accord is not a Regional Forum and is therefore not a
body that could be funded under the purchase agreement. Similarly,
funding iwi to meet among themselves, separate from a meeting
with the Ministry, would also appear to be inconsistent with the
current purchase agreement between the Minister and the Ministry.
In this circumstance the Ministry is not able to fund meetings
unless they are between a Regional Forum and the Ministry.”
In light of the planned
hui on the 6th and 7th of April the 'short line-out' responded to
Stan Crother's letter on April 4th (Appendix
Five). The letter addressed the Ministry's concerns and concluded,
hui called to date by Ngapuhi, Ngati Wai and Ngati Whatua to which
non-Maori non-commercial fishing interests have been invited,
comply in essence with the MFish Regional Forum model, and therefore
qualify for and are entitled to the government agreed funding
of $20,000 per annum for input and participation by tangata whenua
in respect of those hui. Additional funding will be sought to
provide for input and participation on particular sustainability
The Ministry replied with
a commitment to send a more detailed letter within ten days, a list
of concerns setting out the criteria by which MFish staff would
participate in the hui and concluded the letter (Appendix
Six) with the statement,
like confirmation prior to Thursday that the hui will be conducted
in a professional manner and that the proceedings will not be
videoed or recorded and that media will not be present.
I look forward to your reply.”
The Hokianga Accord awaits
the promised detailed response to the initial letter and some clarification
on the above statement implying previous hui had been unprofessional.
Sonny responded immediately,
on April 5th, answering the challenges raised in Stan's letter to
the Hokianga Accord (Appendix Seven).
In keeping with the Accord's policy of openness and transparency
the hui was recorded on video.
Accord and Ngapuhi
extended a warm welcome to the Pakeha recreational fishing
representatives at the hui. The term Pakeha was used in terms
of all non-Maori present and was not meant to be a derogatory
phrase. The Hokianga Accord was grateful the Ministry of Fisheries
had made an effort to attend and contribute to the discussions.
The hui was advised
that two television crews were present to record the meeting,
Maori Television and TVNZ. Both are making documentaries on
how Maori and Pakeha are working together on fisheries management
issues and the involvement of Ministry in these discussions.
|Also recording the hui was Steve Sangster, on
behalf of the Hokianga Accord, for reporting and future reference
||Sonny Tau addressing the 2005 NZRFC conference
Ngapuhi's position was
clearly stated when Sonny explained,
"80% of Ngapuhi's
income comes from the sea, through our fisheries asset. 100% of
the time that Ngapuhi go fishing to feed our babies and continue
to feed our whanau, we look to the sea. So it is natural that
we spend much time getting this thing right, with the Ministry
of Fisheries help of course, to make sure the sea continues to
feed us into the future."
It made little sense to have iwi Forums
discussing the same issues as the regional recreational fishing
forums and Sonny suggested to the hui that all those involved in
the regional and Ministerial forums should be urging the Ministry
to have only one Forum, in the mid north region. Not segregated
as per the Ministry agenda. This is acknowledgement that 99.99%
of the time that Maori fish they are regarded as recreational fishers.
“"We need to be sitting in the same room, talking
about the same things, sustainability of the resource is the korero."”
After a round up of the issues from
Sonny, Mark Edwards was invited to present the MFish deputy CEO,
Stan Crother's response to the proposed Hokianga Accord structure
Fisheries Policy Manager, Ministry of Fisheries
Mark introduced each of
the MFish team and gave a brief description of their role. A special
mention was made of the Pou Hononga team present, Carl Ross, Graeme
Morrell and George Riley, and the great job they were doing as relationship
managers for the Ministry of Fisheries.
MFish had considered a
range of options on how they might improve their engagement and
meet their legislative obligations to Maori. MFish had promoted
the formation of iwi forums around the country. The Ministry believed
they were in a difficult position as they do not have a large number
of staff, are not overly resourced and there were a very large number
of iwi throughout the country.
a mechanism that allowed us to engage with Maori in an efficient
manner, but in a meaningful manner, because we recognised that
what you could call consultation to that date, largely paper-based
with the odd meeting, was not meeting the obligations as we saw
MFish realised Maori have
extensive interest in fisheries, customary, recreational and substantial
commercial interests. "Our engagement response has been
to encompass all of the fisheries management issues that concern
engagement to meet our obligations, our statutory obligations
with Maori is different but linked to the concept of an MOU (Memorandum
of Understanding). We need to have that engagement in any case."”
Government had clear guidelines
as to what was required in an engagement that is designed to meet
complex obligations, what is expected of Government departments,
who they engaged with, their responsibilities and what they were
trying to achieve. The MOU and Cabinet guidelines helped this process.
Any MOU the Forum signed would be a formal agreement between the
Government and Maori.
Mark agreed with Sonny's point about
the Ministry engaging with a range of stakeholders who were involved
in fisheries management, in the same forums, to reach a common understanding
on what the goals were, a common information base, to develop shared
objectives and to discuss any “"trade-offs"”
that needed to take place when different interests were involved.
Ministry viewed Fisheries
Plans as the way to fulfil the need for sustainable fisheries management
and engaging all stakeholders in one Forum. Fisheries Plans are
included in the MFish Statement of Intent.
important part of those is that we have all of the concerned stakeholders
in the same place discussing the constraints, the objectives,
the information we have and trying to agree, if possible, or have
decisions made, but in an informed way that has involved all relevant
parties to achieve the fisheries management objectives that Sonny
referred to. Ultimately, the sustainability of our resources but
importantly provide for the utilisation of all different sorts."”
Mark believed the Hokianga
Accord's fisheries management goal was the same as the Ministry's
goal. The Accord's goal is:
fish in the water"”
maha atu nga ika i roto te wai"”
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